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Why vote Democrat and wait?
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Crescentius Vespasianus
2006-05-25 19:54:50 UTC
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Even if most of the elections went the Democrats way, it would take a
minimum of 20 years for the socialist utopia to raise up in the way they
invision. If you're 40-50 years old now, it's already too late to think
that voting for Democrats will make a difference in your life. Read the
obits of deceased Liberals in your area. They'll say something like,
he/she fought for social justice, or he/she was an activist, etc. How sad
to be rolled into a grave, not being able to see any results of your labor.
So what is the answer for an ageing Democrat activist fighting for social
justice? Why try to create a socialist utopia here, when you can travel
today to a socialist utopia. Here are a few places you could re-locate
today, and experience the social justice you so desire:

Havana, Cuba
Caracus, Venezuela
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Harare, Zimbabwe
jps
2006-05-25 21:28:31 UTC
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Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
Even if most of the elections went the Democrats way, it would take a
minimum of 20 years for the socialist utopia to raise up in the way they
invision. If you're 40-50 years old now, it's already too late to think
that voting for Democrats will make a difference in your life. Read the
obits of deceased Liberals in your area. They'll say something like,
he/she fought for social justice, or he/she was an activist, etc. How sad
to be rolled into a grave, not being able to see any results of your labor.
So what is the answer for an ageing Democrat activist fighting for social
justice? Why try to create a socialist utopia here, when you can travel
today to a socialist utopia. Here are a few places you could re-locate
Havana, Cuba
Caracus, Venezuela
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Harare, Zimbabwe
Someone has to stick around to make certain your children don't
procreate.

jps
C***@KNICKLAS.COM
2006-05-25 21:42:32 UTC
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 19:54:50 GMT, "Crescentius
Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
Even if most of the elections went the Democrats way, it would take a
minimum of 20 years for the socialist utopia to raise up in the way they
invision.
First of all, you pathetic little fuckwit

The ONLY "socialist utopia" in existence is in that
tortured mind of yours---a make believe one.

It's the most juvenile form of fallacy argument
(concocting a claim by prejudicial statement), then
requiring it's acceptance as "truth"

The term "social justice" enters in when, from reading
history, we can predict what happens when government
fails to curtail personal and corporate wealth and
power and fails to "redistribute" wealth of the nation
on an equitable rationale.
Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
If you're 40-50 years old now, it's already too late to think
that voting for Democrats will make a difference in your life.
you poor moron

EVERYTHING you enjoy today was gained for YOU by
liberals and progressives.

Had they not, slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, would
have been still in place, no right to attorneys when
accused by government, arbitrary use of police power to
force your obediance, and a handful of rich, white,
powerful individuals and corporations would tell you
where to live, when to work, what wages you could have
( but only if you accepted THEIR views)

I'm REALLY glad dumb assholes like you babble on about
these non-existent "socialist" things because it makes
you look like the loony asshole I'm calling you.

Thanks for your help.
Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:04:47 GMT, Using all his intellect,
"....you pile of Kerry shit,"
r***@comcast.net
2006-05-25 22:09:53 UTC
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Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
The ONLY "socialist utopia" in existence is in that
tortured mind of yours---a make believe one.
Nah. I grew up in a socialist utopia. We had free health care; great
public education; subsidized/discounted food and apparel and sundries;
we had free community pools and youth centers; free use of all sorts
of things from camping gear to boats; we even had all the free movies
we wanted. (They also even set up a center with a huge record library,
record players and tape recorders where you could go copy all the
music you wanted to tape.)

It was amazing. Great teachers who competed for the high salaries and
benefits to get these plum jobs. And we got to travel all over the
world free or at substantial discount!

where was this utopia? I grew up a military brat, the socialist
center of the machine that protects those great "free markets".

________________
I am human; nothing in humanity is alien to me.
Terence
Harry Flynt
2006-05-25 22:15:39 UTC
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Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
On Thu, 25 May 2006 19:54:50 GMT, "Crescentius
Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
Even if most of the elections went the Democrats way, it would take
a minimum of 20 years for the socialist utopia to raise up in the way
they invision.
First of all, you pathetic little fuckwit
The ONLY "socialist utopia" in existence is in that
tortured mind of yours---a make believe one.
It's the most juvenile form of fallacy argument
(concocting a claim by prejudicial statement), then
requiring it's acceptance as "truth"
The term "social justice" enters in when, from reading
history, we can predict what happens when government
fails to curtail personal and corporate wealth and
power and fails to "redistribute" wealth of the nation
on an equitable rationale.
Post by Crescentius Vespasianus
If you're 40-50 years old now, it's already too late to think
that voting for Democrats will make a difference in your life.
you poor moron
EVERYTHING you enjoy today was gained for YOU by
liberals and progressives.
Had they not, slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, would
have been still in place, no right to attorneys when
accused by government, arbitrary use of police power to
force your obediance, and a handful of rich, white,
powerful individuals and corporations would tell you
where to live, when to work, what wages you could have
( but only if you accepted THEIR views)
I'm REALLY glad dumb assholes like you babble on about
these non-existent "socialist" things because it makes
you look like the loony asshole I'm calling you.
Thanks for your help.
your class envy really shows monkey boy.

Harry
C***@KNICKLAS.COM
2006-05-26 13:07:00 UTC
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Post by Harry Flynt
your class envy really shows monkey boy.
Exactly what does a reading of history show you?

You ever read what American was like from 1880---1935?

Or is your entire sense of history from John Wayne
Westerns or rightwing propaganda?

Name ANYTHING consevatism has ever done to help America
or Americans
Harry Flynt
2006-05-26 21:18:10 UTC
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Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
Post by Harry Flynt
your class envy really shows monkey boy.
Exactly what does a reading of history show you?
You ever read what American was like from 1880---1935?
Or is your entire sense of history from John Wayne
Westerns or rightwing propaganda?
Name ANYTHING consevatism has ever done to help America
or Americans
the death penality.

Harry
C***@KNICKLAS.COM
2006-05-27 00:26:28 UTC
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Post by Harry Flynt
Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
Post by Harry Flynt
your class envy really shows monkey boy.
Exactly what does a reading of history show you?
You ever read what American was like from 1880---1935?
Or is your entire sense of history from John Wayne
Westerns or rightwing propaganda?
Name ANYTHING consevatism has ever done to help America
or Americans
the death penality.
I'm sure glad that's the only thing you could come up
with

a) The death penalty has never deterred murder

b) American justice has been proven fallible many times
over in applying a death sentence and finding out the
accused were innocent

c) America is one of the last remaining civilized,
industrial, advanced nations that use it to feed the
political divide.

Conservatism is synonymous with death, racism,
homophobia, greed, bigotry, and self-serving interest

I'm not surprised it's the only thing that you could
come up with.

Callistus Valerius
2006-05-26 11:42:23 UTC
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Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
First of all, you pathetic
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Off surfing this weekend, ideal conditions for some tube-riding. I'd
like to talk about social justice compadre, but the waves and the Tecate are
calling for me.
C***@KNICKLAS.COM
2006-05-26 13:07:38 UTC
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:42:23 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
Post by Callistus Valerius
Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
First of all, you pathetic
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Off surfing this weekend, ideal conditions for some tube-riding. I'd
like to talk about social justice compadre, but the waves and the Tecate are
calling for me.
You're a big a blowhard and dumb cocksucker as was
Billy Beck
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Post by C***@KNICKLAS.COM
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come try it.
I'll take your fuckin' life, instantly, and sleep like a baby.
Billy
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